Good episode, but my biggest pet peeve is how the writers need to sort out the timeline. They keep saying Jeremiah's been gone 15 years (and in one instance, 14). But they said just a few episodes ago, in "The Martian Chronicles", that they were celebrating Kara's 13th "Earth Birthday". 13 years since she crashed on earth.

It's these little things that can make a devoted fan cringe a bit.

But yes, this was a great episode, and I can't wait to see the 2nd part. Mon-El made me cringe, though. I don't mind that he and Kara are together (I think it's temporary, at best). And I don't mind that he was right about Jeremiah. He's the only one who had no emotional attachment to Jeremiah, so it kinda made sense.

What made me cringe is HOW he went about his accusations...in the middle of a "welcome home" party. Come on, dude...use some tact.

I don't think "tact" is taught on Daxam. I have surmised as others have that much of Mon-El's lack of tact, no filter, etc....are from his earlier life. He is still very new to earth, and his upbringing was far different from Kara's or earthlings for that matter. That explains a lot for me.

he did try to discuss with Kara at the deo but she like others didn't want to hear it and then he got pressed for an opinion.

Yep. If you watch that scene, Mon-El was keeping quiet about his concerns all during the toast. It wasn't until J'onn said they were going to let Jeremiah back in with no questions asked that Mon-El whispered his gobsmacked disbelief quietly to Kara and Kara in return demanded that Mon-El "say something nice to him - now" then it all started going pear-shaped.

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think Kara was a wee bit out of line demanding that Mon-El say something nice to Jeremiah when she knew Mon-El had reservations about him.

Yes, I think Mon-El should've towed the company line at that moment, bitten his tongue regarding his reservations and instead should've waited to reiterate his concerns to J'onn and Kara after the family get together. He screwed that up. But, with that said, I don't think it's right that Kara demanded that he express something he didn't believe and she knew that. I'm not trying to cast aspersions on Kara here either, but just pointing out that they all weren't using their best judgement in this situation.

Of course, YMMV.

Oh oh my ... i didn't remembered this from Lois and Clark. Soooooooo "kitch" lol.
Thanks kiwi

tweet from Natalie Abrams of Entertainment weekly. link in the tweet takes you 2 a snippet of an interview with words from Melissa and Chyler.

Supergirl Preview: Jeremiah's Return Creates New Conflict for Alex and Kara, tvline.com article.

I was once asked why I quit watch Supergirl. This episode showed one of the reasons well. The CW destroyed the most beautiful thing they had in the series, which was the relationship between the Danvers sisters.

some off the cuff thoughts from 1 of the guys at supergirltalk.tv

To go along with how did Alex miss Jeremiah's robotic arm, and why did it take J'onn so long to realize he couldn't read Jeremiah's thoughts... MY question... How did Kara not see the biotic arm or rather... If she suspected him for even a second, why not just quickly scan him for brain implants or fake limbs? Yeah... It's not like they haven't been dealing with shape shifting Martians, and cyborgy people on the daily. Duh. They all DESERVED to be dooped.

And... ALEX DANVERS!! YOU, little lady, were not nice!! But AWESOME acting... And great tensions between her and Mel.

Oh and at the end when Jeremiah makes SURE Lillian sticks to their "deal"....I suspect that deal involves them leaving Supergirl alone... She's off limits with their plans to eliminate all aliens. But that would also mean, Cadmus does indeed know her identity. Not totally surprising.

I don't remember how it happened this episode: But, I saw a post in tumblr that explained the timing and seemed to say that mainly it is only Jeremiah who is confused. With everyone else, with a bit rounding off the number works as 12-13 (season 1-Season2) and their ages (Alex's and Kara's) work as well.

If we think that Jeremiah is confused (and others are just ignoring it as they have been doing), then yeah the story makes sense.

I really liked how Eliza told Jeremiah that things are different now. It makes sense.

Actually J'onn said the same thing in episode 3 when he was talking about "wearing the skin of a black man for the last 15 years". That could'nt be a group hallucination.

As far as the years thing, I will go with what was said in this episode....almost 14 years....why? because the 2 writers of this episode have been with the series from the start. We past 2 earth birthdays with Kara, but only saw the celebration of 1....so, 12+2 = 14. Hopefully the others writers take note..

Gave this episode a 9/10....well written by 2 of my fav writers from season 1. This episode made me very uncomfortable, which is a good thing, that means the acting was on point enough to make me fidget in the tough scene.

Besides the episode "Changes" I think this was by far one of Chyler's best episodes even though I wanted to punch her in the nose...lol

I haven't said "oh $&*(" this many times in an episode in a long time.

I loved the action, but what did it for me was the enormously tense scenes in this episode. I found myself holding my breath a few times.

The only thing that was sort of a problem for me, and took it down from a 10 to a 9 was the scene in the woods where Kara hears the train and turns for a moment. She has done that now a few times, BIG TIME last week, when she turns her back on Metallo to face Dr. Luthor and at that time I thought.....are you crazy, turn around, the main threat is behind you. But I didn't count off, now that it has happened again, the threat being in front of her and she turns her back on it was a problem for me. But, not a huge one.

So a solid 9 out of 10, really enjoyed this episode, one of my top 5 for the 2 seasons thus far.

It will actually be nice to have that week off after 2 very, very tense episodes. Kind of like the week we had off in between "Falling" and the crossover last season.

When Supergirl was saving the train, I thought she was going to connect the track with her body so the train would run over her body, like in Superman the Movie. That would've been a cool nod to the movie.

That actually would've been pretty cool to see, Supergirl has paid homage to Richard Donner's excellent Superman The Movie quite often through it's run. It was good they put their own spin on it though as it was a totally awesome display of Superheroics, now in my Top 3 of Superheroics on this show so far along with the Missile Chase from 'Solitude' and the lifting of Fort Rozz into space from 'Better Angels'.

Good episode, but my biggest pet peeve is how the writers need to sort out the timeline. They keep saying Jeremiah's been gone 15 years (and in one instance, 14). But they said just a few episodes ago, in "The Martian Chronicles", that they were celebrating Kara's 13th "Earth Birthday". 13 years since she crashed on earth.

It's these little things that can make a devoted fan cringe a bit.

But yes, this was a great episode, and I can't wait to see the 2nd part. Mon-El made me cringe, though. I don't mind that he and Kara are together (I think it's temporary, at best). And I don't mind that he was right about Jeremiah. He's the only one who had no emotional attachment to Jeremiah, so it kinda made sense.

What made me cringe is HOW he went about his accusations...in the middle of a "welcome home" party. Come on, dude...use some tact.

I really did enjoy this episode, acting and dialogue wise...but disappointed how it panned out with Jeremiah. I knew something was up, but I was hoping I was wrong! I still think there's a twist involved and there's more to the story than Kara and Alex know, and if they knew I guess they would understand Jeremiahs motives more..:/
But darn it, the family dinner was so heart felt...and hearing Jeremiah talk about not proud of what he's done in the past, seeing him hug jonn, thanking him for protecting his daughters, the claps at the deo...not to mention didn't jonn talk bout having psych evaluation and checkup before joining the deo :/? It does seem strange that they didn’t pick up his arm was superficial earlier on as well. But I knew it was way too convienent that nothing would be up with Jeremiah..
Part if me actually wanted to be shocked like if Alex actually pulled the trigger, not killed him but the writers could've tricked us into thinking he was, although I guess he would he invulnerable to it? But to see him knocked out and the deo could check out what cadmus did to him exactly. Though it might not be Jeremiah as in the one they knew...I can't help but wonder it was kinda odd how he addressed jonn thank you friend...rather than name but maybe I'm paranoid lol

If you go to the end of this review from A.V.Club there's a tweet from Derek Simon (Supergirl writer) who posted a 12 second video "hello Twitter this is what #Supergirl would look like if @armenvfx didn't exist" about the train save sequence. Pretty amazing stuff and Melissa sells it so well.

Link to Derek Simon's twitter page also included.

TV Fanatic: Supergirl Round Table: Is Jeremiah a Goner?.

Interesting that they think Jeremiah will sacrifice himself but I certainly hope not, I definitely want Jeremiah returned to his family.